In Australia, there’s a phrase that describes people who protest aggressively when they don’t get their way – it’s called “spitting the dummy.” In other parts of the world it’s called a tantrum - Australia’s use of language has a masterful way of summing events up through the art of visualisation.
I agree with all you've written. though it would be pleasing to see you use 'such as', rather than the incorrect 'like'.
Unfortunately, whilst it is commendable that Penny Wong is now taking, on behalf of the Australian Government, a stance that comes closer to reflecting the truth of Israel's perfidy, it has taken far to long to reach this point and it still falls well short of what should be happening, i.e. direct condemnation of Israel's ethnic cleansing and brutal assaults on innocent civilians, not only in Gaza where the incursion by Hamas fighters first took place but also in adjacent nations.
To be fair to Penny Wong, I suggest that she has probably had substantial opposition to taking even this hard a line, both from within and outside the government. The Israeli lobby in Australia is as strong as in many other western democracies, as is also the tendency to give more leeway to Israel because of the persecution of the Jews in Europe during WWII. In addition, of course, there is the subservience of Australian governments of both persuasions to the USA, which is as strong as ever. This is a particularly significant issue because of the obnoxious stance of the USA government in supplying funding and armaments to Israel and their protection of Israel at the UN, not least by use of their veto.
It will be interesting to see where things go from here in regard to relations between the USA and Australia because of two other significant factors.
One factor is the debacle of Australia and its submarine fleet. From the very outset, the current Collins class submarines have been plagued with failed capability, enormous cost blow-outs and now the reality that not one of them is seaworthy. Then, of course, there is the insanity of the AUKUS agreement to purchase nuclear submarines in conjunction with the USA and Britain and which will be obsolescent by the time of delivery if, indeed, that ever occurs. Had the Liberal Party honoured its prior agreement to purchase French vessels then Australia would not be in this predicament and would not have damaged its reputation in Europe.
The second factor is, of course, the imminent entry of Donald Trump into the White House for a second time. The shock waves from the USA presidential election are still being felt by many, not only in the USA but around the World. The only people that can be pleased with his election, (for which there is certainly considerable evidence of likely tampering with voting machines), are 'leaders' such as Putin and other heads of state of, essentially, one party nations, dictatorships and autocracies and oligarchies. Had one not actually witnessed this election, no rational, intelligent, fair-minded and moral human being would have believe it possible that a convicted felon, sexual predator, liar, abuser of workers, trash talking self-aggrandising and narcissistic demagogue would be once again allowed to take the highest office in the land and one of, if not the most, powerful in the World.
I'm ambivalent as to whether I can't wait to see what will happen or whether I'd rather fake ignorance and pretend to be blissfully unaware, i.e. as ignorant as those that elected him.
Just a comment re Penny Wong. I have observed, as no doubt have many others, that Penny Wong’s facial expressions/lack of expression reveal far more than what she has actually said - or been allowed to say - until now, albeit belatedly. Better late than never. I never felt her rather minimalist comments/statements were genuine and that she would have had much stronger personal opinions - no doubt expressed in private - about this deliberate carnage and genocide which really has been in plain sight for over a year for all to see. What’s happening in Gaza can’t be ‘spun’ as reasonable and complying with international law. As for Aukus my views on its utter stupidity are unprintable.
Yes, Judy, I fully agree with you. Body language and facial expressions can be, (often are), a clear give-away. At the other end of the intellectual scale, take Trump, for instance. 🤣
Don't think Sa'ar's aggressive response has anthing to do with the fragility of the Israeli state. This is stock standard behaviour since God knows when. They're just ramping up in a linear response to criticism.
You’re just a fuck knuckle. Fuck off you disgusting piece of shit. I’m sure your mother shat you out in a frenzy trying to take a dump somewhere. And that’s what you’re the product of, a disgusting zionist mad slag trying to shit out her evil horrors - you!’
Learn yo write you fucking ignorant scumbag. I’m not sure where you live, but if you’re in Australia you genocidal loving dog, let me know and I’ll spend a domestic airfare and pay you a visit. I bet you wouldn’t say it to me while I’m standing right in front of you. The next time you message me, make sure your address is included. If not, then take a home. And yes I hate murdering Zionists who have been a cancer on the world for decades.
What exactly does the Israeli FM suggest Australia does about the fire bomb on the synagogue? I’d be surprised if Melbourne’s are just sitting around. My first thought was that it was Nazis rather than Muslims.
Netanyahu and his ilk, unsurprisingly claim this was a case of antisemitism. This is the standard cry whenever anything happens involving Israelis or involving Jews. Sadly, the Australian authorities and particularly the media are following the same sort of line.
The imposition of anti-protest laws is appalling. Yes, I don't deny that there may be some antisemites among those who protest but I believe by far the vast majority of those raising their voices are doing so not because of any dislike or hatred of Jews but because they are compassionate and caring people who are horrified by the actions of Netanyahu, his war mongering Zionist colleagues and the unruly and unchecked IDF.
This conflation of anger at genocide by Israel with antisemitic sentiment is a furphy and nothing more. Thankfully, even many Jews recognise this and have taken part in or assembled their own protest groups only to be thwarted in Australia and the US by governments bowing to the Zionist lobby.
Israel has been allowed to commit its atrocities for far too long. That the USA is funding and supplying the arms to support this genocide is appalling. Supposedly, the USA is the leader of the 'Free World'. If indeed it ever was, it certainly is no longer.
You are right. There are anti-Jews who are wholly different from pro-Palestinians. The lunatic right delude themselves that Rothschilds control the world. They hate Muslims just as much if not more.
A film I've never been able to watch again. How is what Israel is doing to GAZA and the children there much different? The Germans also claimed they had valid reasons for their own systematic murder.
Why are so many leaders in the West so fixated on killing other people as a means to an end? And if Trump just continues and escalates the worship of killing even more people (as a means to an end) - where will that lead us all?
Notice how quickly you default to the dehumanizing Jewish tropes - lice , pigs , vermin . Anti semitism is deeply embedded in the Muslim world and you’re a product
What emerges in this situation -- and is certainly prevalent in the USA, where Trump demands 100% obedience -- is a core principle of the Zionist mentality: ALL dissent must be suppressed.
Mussolini probably deserves credit for the slogan, "Mussolini *ha sempre raggione*" (Mussolini is always right), which the totalitarian Right now bleats as an Article of Faith (whether ideological or religious). Seen in this light, Sa'ar is merely consistent with the Party Line... [I use asterisks in the absence of italics.]
Agreed. It does look like an "emergency" tantrum, a pathetic move to distract and create a diversion from the main issue. Not the first and not the last time from the professional-fraudster entity. They have no shame. I wonder whether it was his decision (that is closing the embassy in Dublin) or someone else made him ask for it (not that it greatly matters).
You might be right David. Merry Christmas buddy.
You too George!!!!
I agree with all you've written. though it would be pleasing to see you use 'such as', rather than the incorrect 'like'.
Unfortunately, whilst it is commendable that Penny Wong is now taking, on behalf of the Australian Government, a stance that comes closer to reflecting the truth of Israel's perfidy, it has taken far to long to reach this point and it still falls well short of what should be happening, i.e. direct condemnation of Israel's ethnic cleansing and brutal assaults on innocent civilians, not only in Gaza where the incursion by Hamas fighters first took place but also in adjacent nations.
To be fair to Penny Wong, I suggest that she has probably had substantial opposition to taking even this hard a line, both from within and outside the government. The Israeli lobby in Australia is as strong as in many other western democracies, as is also the tendency to give more leeway to Israel because of the persecution of the Jews in Europe during WWII. In addition, of course, there is the subservience of Australian governments of both persuasions to the USA, which is as strong as ever. This is a particularly significant issue because of the obnoxious stance of the USA government in supplying funding and armaments to Israel and their protection of Israel at the UN, not least by use of their veto.
It will be interesting to see where things go from here in regard to relations between the USA and Australia because of two other significant factors.
One factor is the debacle of Australia and its submarine fleet. From the very outset, the current Collins class submarines have been plagued with failed capability, enormous cost blow-outs and now the reality that not one of them is seaworthy. Then, of course, there is the insanity of the AUKUS agreement to purchase nuclear submarines in conjunction with the USA and Britain and which will be obsolescent by the time of delivery if, indeed, that ever occurs. Had the Liberal Party honoured its prior agreement to purchase French vessels then Australia would not be in this predicament and would not have damaged its reputation in Europe.
The second factor is, of course, the imminent entry of Donald Trump into the White House for a second time. The shock waves from the USA presidential election are still being felt by many, not only in the USA but around the World. The only people that can be pleased with his election, (for which there is certainly considerable evidence of likely tampering with voting machines), are 'leaders' such as Putin and other heads of state of, essentially, one party nations, dictatorships and autocracies and oligarchies. Had one not actually witnessed this election, no rational, intelligent, fair-minded and moral human being would have believe it possible that a convicted felon, sexual predator, liar, abuser of workers, trash talking self-aggrandising and narcissistic demagogue would be once again allowed to take the highest office in the land and one of, if not the most, powerful in the World.
I'm ambivalent as to whether I can't wait to see what will happen or whether I'd rather fake ignorance and pretend to be blissfully unaware, i.e. as ignorant as those that elected him.
Just a comment re Penny Wong. I have observed, as no doubt have many others, that Penny Wong’s facial expressions/lack of expression reveal far more than what she has actually said - or been allowed to say - until now, albeit belatedly. Better late than never. I never felt her rather minimalist comments/statements were genuine and that she would have had much stronger personal opinions - no doubt expressed in private - about this deliberate carnage and genocide which really has been in plain sight for over a year for all to see. What’s happening in Gaza can’t be ‘spun’ as reasonable and complying with international law. As for Aukus my views on its utter stupidity are unprintable.
Yes, Judy, I fully agree with you. Body language and facial expressions can be, (often are), a clear give-away. At the other end of the intellectual scale, take Trump, for instance. 🤣
Don't think Sa'ar's aggressive response has anthing to do with the fragility of the Israeli state. This is stock standard behaviour since God knows when. They're just ramping up in a linear response to criticism.
Having said that, tsrael has very few years left.
Yeah I am and I’ve just described what you are cunt. lol
You’re just a fuck knuckle. Fuck off you disgusting piece of shit. I’m sure your mother shat you out in a frenzy trying to take a dump somewhere. And that’s what you’re the product of, a disgusting zionist mad slag trying to shit out her evil horrors - you!’
Learn yo write you fucking ignorant scumbag. I’m not sure where you live, but if you’re in Australia you genocidal loving dog, let me know and I’ll spend a domestic airfare and pay you a visit. I bet you wouldn’t say it to me while I’m standing right in front of you. The next time you message me, make sure your address is included. If not, then take a home. And yes I hate murdering Zionists who have been a cancer on the world for decades.
I, for one, have not forgotten Wong's slavishness towards the US over Julian Assange.
Thank you for reminding me ….
What exactly does the Israeli FM suggest Australia does about the fire bomb on the synagogue? I’d be surprised if Melbourne’s are just sitting around. My first thought was that it was Nazis rather than Muslims.
Netanyahu and his ilk, unsurprisingly claim this was a case of antisemitism. This is the standard cry whenever anything happens involving Israelis or involving Jews. Sadly, the Australian authorities and particularly the media are following the same sort of line.
The imposition of anti-protest laws is appalling. Yes, I don't deny that there may be some antisemites among those who protest but I believe by far the vast majority of those raising their voices are doing so not because of any dislike or hatred of Jews but because they are compassionate and caring people who are horrified by the actions of Netanyahu, his war mongering Zionist colleagues and the unruly and unchecked IDF.
This conflation of anger at genocide by Israel with antisemitic sentiment is a furphy and nothing more. Thankfully, even many Jews recognise this and have taken part in or assembled their own protest groups only to be thwarted in Australia and the US by governments bowing to the Zionist lobby.
Israel has been allowed to commit its atrocities for far too long. That the USA is funding and supplying the arms to support this genocide is appalling. Supposedly, the USA is the leader of the 'Free World'. If indeed it ever was, it certainly is no longer.
You are right. There are anti-Jews who are wholly different from pro-Palestinians. The lunatic right delude themselves that Rothschilds control the world. They hate Muslims just as much if not more.
Watched this clip from Schindler's List recently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1VL-y9JHuI
A film I've never been able to watch again. How is what Israel is doing to GAZA and the children there much different? The Germans also claimed they had valid reasons for their own systematic murder.
Why are so many leaders in the West so fixated on killing other people as a means to an end? And if Trump just continues and escalates the worship of killing even more people (as a means to an end) - where will that lead us all?
Notice how quickly you default to the dehumanizing Jewish tropes - lice , pigs , vermin . Anti semitism is deeply embedded in the Muslim world and you’re a product
Lol what’re you in 3rd grade . What an embarrassment
what I wrote is English is it not. What an odd tactic
Never knew lice could write. lol
You sound like a chat gpt rendering of “say a lot of big words and try to sound smart while hating Israel”. Fucking idiot
Learn to speak and write English you fucking low life cunt!
What emerges in this situation -- and is certainly prevalent in the USA, where Trump demands 100% obedience -- is a core principle of the Zionist mentality: ALL dissent must be suppressed.
Mussolini probably deserves credit for the slogan, "Mussolini *ha sempre raggione*" (Mussolini is always right), which the totalitarian Right now bleats as an Article of Faith (whether ideological or religious). Seen in this light, Sa'ar is merely consistent with the Party Line... [I use asterisks in the absence of italics.]
Agreed. It does look like an "emergency" tantrum, a pathetic move to distract and create a diversion from the main issue. Not the first and not the last time from the professional-fraudster entity. They have no shame. I wonder whether it was his decision (that is closing the embassy in Dublin) or someone else made him ask for it (not that it greatly matters).
I guess everyone knows how Israel is behaving now in Syria?
Can anyone imagine a larger Zionist State? I can and it fills me with fear.