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George Hazim's avatar

You might be right David. Merry Christmas buddy.

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roger hawcroft's avatar

I agree with all you've written. though it would be pleasing to see you use 'such as', rather than the incorrect 'like'.

Unfortunately, whilst it is commendable that Penny Wong is now taking, on behalf of the Australian Government, a stance that comes closer to reflecting the truth of Israel's perfidy, it has taken far to long to reach this point and it still falls well short of what should be happening, i.e. direct condemnation of Israel's ethnic cleansing and brutal assaults on innocent civilians, not only in Gaza where the incursion by Hamas fighters first took place but also in adjacent nations.

To be fair to Penny Wong, I suggest that she has probably had substantial opposition to taking even this hard a line, both from within and outside the government. The Israeli lobby in Australia is as strong as in many other western democracies, as is also the tendency to give more leeway to Israel because of the persecution of the Jews in Europe during WWII. In addition, of course, there is the subservience of Australian governments of both persuasions to the USA, which is as strong as ever. This is a particularly significant issue because of the obnoxious stance of the USA government in supplying funding and armaments to Israel and their protection of Israel at the UN, not least by use of their veto.

It will be interesting to see where things go from here in regard to relations between the USA and Australia because of two other significant factors.

One factor is the debacle of Australia and its submarine fleet. From the very outset, the current Collins class submarines have been plagued with failed capability, enormous cost blow-outs and now the reality that not one of them is seaworthy. Then, of course, there is the insanity of the AUKUS agreement to purchase nuclear submarines in conjunction with the USA and Britain and which will be obsolescent by the time of delivery if, indeed, that ever occurs. Had the Liberal Party honoured its prior agreement to purchase French vessels then Australia would not be in this predicament and would not have damaged its reputation in Europe.

The second factor is, of course, the imminent entry of Donald Trump into the White House for a second time. The shock waves from the USA presidential election are still being felt by many, not only in the USA but around the World. The only people that can be pleased with his election, (for which there is certainly considerable evidence of likely tampering with voting machines), are 'leaders' such as Putin and other heads of state of, essentially, one party nations, dictatorships and autocracies and oligarchies. Had one not actually witnessed this election, no rational, intelligent, fair-minded and moral human being would have believe it possible that a convicted felon, sexual predator, liar, abuser of workers, trash talking self-aggrandising and narcissistic demagogue would be once again allowed to take the highest office in the land and one of, if not the most, powerful in the World.

I'm ambivalent as to whether I can't wait to see what will happen or whether I'd rather fake ignorance and pretend to be blissfully unaware, i.e. as ignorant as those that elected him.

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