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roger hawcroft's avatar

The short answer to your title question is: They shouldn't.

Trump could have stopped this genocide long ago. All he had to do was stop providing funding and armaments to Israel and issue a condemnation of the brutality and illegality of the collective punishment of Palestinians and the illegal settlement and attacks on Palestinians in the West Bank.

Trump is as complicit in this genocide and breach of the Genocide Convention and International Humanitarian Law as well as the Law of Warfare as is Netanyahu who, by now, ought to have been arrested and sent to the Hague for trial.

Trump could also have used his bluster and bullying leverage to pressure other western governments, such as those of the UK, Australia & several European nations, to condemn Israel's actions, stop any trade and impose sanctions.

As for Netanyahu and Israeli spokes-people, they consistently lie through their teeth with blatant and almost unbelievable audacity, given that the World can see what is happening on their tv screens, despite Israel's attempts to prevent it by denying journalists access, and killing them at will.

I will probably not be alive to see it but I am quite sure - so sure that I'll make the prophecy - the United States, Israel, Trump and Netanyahu will be condemned by history as criminal pariahs responsible for the worst human persecution since that of the National Socialists in the 1930s and 1940s.

Trump, Netanyahu and their allies and supporters must either be human beings who somehow don't ever need to sleep or otherwise are psychopaths and sociopaths, for had they an ounce of humane conscience and/or respect for the life of others, they would not be able to sleep.

I have no religion, not least because of situations such as has occurred in Gaza and the West Bank since 7 October 2023 and the mindless armed conflicts, persecution, destruction, prejudice, hatred and war that through the ages has set human beings against one another and caused unimaginable horrow, maiming and death.

It is time that humanity matured and stopped indulging in indoctrination of mythical beliefs and, instead, gave time, thought and practise to discussing, teaching, funding and practising peace and collaboration and respect for the life and dignity of every living creature.

Frankly, in almost 80 years on this Earth and having witnessed directly or indirectly, a large number of conflicts and tragedies and megalomaniacs, I never anticipated carnage and hypocrisy on the scale of that of Netanyahu and Trump - two criminals at the head of nations. I have no idea how much life I have left but I never want to witness this again and I doubt that I will smile again until I know that this monstrous tragedy has ended and Netanyahu and Trump are being made to account for their crimes, which are certainly as aggregious as those of the leaders of the Third Reich.

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Lenny Cavallaro's avatar

Let me address your last paragraph with a simple suggestion. Read JULIETTE, by the Marquis de Sade. The parties you named (Trump, Bibi, et al) are psychopaths and sociopaths who "get off" on the suffering they inflict, just as Sade's libertines "get off" on the horrors they inflict on their victims. And -- yes -- I mean "get off" SEXUALLY.

I should know a little about this subject. I have written three novels that deal with loving sadomasochism and a fourth in which the characters are far closer to those of Sade...

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gypsy33's avatar
5dEdited

Excellent comment my friend!

I can only add that this genocide precludes the demise of IsraHell itself. The sane world ( which is the majority) will not tolerate its existence. And I’ll be draping myself in Palestinian flags when it happens.

PS I am Pagan myself; Nature as deity.

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roger hawcroft's avatar

Thank you for the vote of confidence.

Excuse me please for the suggestion - I do accept that you know best what you consider your beliefs to be, I just wonder if perhaps you are actually a Nullifidian, as am I, rather than a Pagan. After all, Christianity, at least, has much that is Pagan or based on Pagan rituals.

I have a Palestinian flag on my front fence and already a rock through my window as a result. That conflation of anitsemitism with condemnation of Genocidal brutality - which I would condemn whoever committed it - is a well planted propaganda device of Israel and is completely absent of any. rationality or understanding of the facts.

Nature is a wonder and a salve for me. Deity - I reject completely.

Take care. Stay safe. ☮️

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gypsy33's avatar

Thank you Roger, and you as well. My Palestinian flag hasn’t resulted in a rock through my window, but my home is over 200 feet from the road, not well-travelled, and I have good neighbors.

And yes, Christianity has STOLEN many Pagan customs, especially placing the “birth of Jesus” next to our Winter Solstice. Bringing greens inside during the winter months, etc: all Pagan.

Nature IS my deity, Roger. Mother Earth, whom I personally refer to as “Goddess”.

Take care Roger.

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SBuff's avatar

Dear George, Please cover the British Medical Association voting for severing ties with the Israeli Medical Association. Happened last week. Just starting to make waves. Please see Neve Gordon’s X account.

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George Hazim's avatar

Ok will do.

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SBuff's avatar

https://x.com/tkatsumi06j/status/1940224237392076891?s=46

This link shows all the text of the x5 Palestine related motions. 🙏🇵🇸🙏

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Feral Finster's avatar

Duh, the ceasefire was simply an opportunity for Israel to regroup, recover and reload. Iran was foolish to have relented.

Which is why you'd think that Russia would have learned something from Minsk and Minsk-2 both of which were obviously shams. Still, the Russian leadership is desperate for a Minsk-3.

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gypsy33's avatar

Agree, my favorite kitty. Iran should have kept going until IsraHell was a pile of dust.

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Jim KABLE's avatar

Thank you yet again for laying the situation out so clearly. Untrustworthy, forkèd tongues - Trump/Netanyahu - and their handmaids - The EU, the UK, Australia...

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Boris Petrov's avatar

After all we have learned about choreographed lies and fabrications about heroic and professional Oct. 7 military breakout out of Gaza concentration camp — why is Hamas still described as “terrorist” ???

Hamas behaved professionally and well-disciplined in conducting a successful breakthrough military attack out of decades long open concentration camp.

Panicked and cowardly Israeli army, however, murdered its own citizens while as usual launching a coordinated fabrications about “beheaded babies and rapes” – ALL disproven by now.

Hamas party was democratically elected and represents wishes of Palestinian people.

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Lenny Cavallaro's avatar

Thanks you for another good piece, George. No one can "negotiate" while also being threatened. This is another case of political grandstanding, and I am not buying the lies.

Meanwhile, Palestinians have become "target practice" for IDF gunmen. Monstrous!

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George Hazim's avatar

You are absolutely right Lenny….

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Robert Billyard's avatar

We are seeing war run by psychopaths where perpetual war is formalized as foreign policy with zero regard for consequences. When all else fails they resort to forever wars. As the empire goes through its precipitous decline they become more angry, crazy, spiteful and desperate.

The US is facing a complete collapse of government and refuses to accept its real enemies reside in Washington. Trump, like Biden before him, has committed egregious treason against the Republic.

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Majid Khoury's avatar

As I said Israel lies to it and trump swears to its liars , god bless America we are going to need all the forgiveness we can get because we are the becoming of ugly Americans and those that praise us under duress of western countries to afraid to tell the truth to their own people … Christianity is in a dying era that may never come back

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Davina's avatar

Since my early teens I have pondered that if all religions tout themselves as the one true religion and their God the one true God, it surely means either they are correct in their assumptions or all wrong. I go for all wrong, because religion has been the cause of so many wars it ust be time to ban them all and just have faith in our ability to survive by taking care of the land and each other.

There is no one people better than any other, only a myth perpetrated by those whose desire is to rule over others.

As for Drumpf, he has absolutely no morals therefore cannot possess moral authority over anyone one when he cannot have it over himself. He is an out and out fraud that wants to be top of the heap. Currently that heap is fouled by the people who frequent it and should be imprisoned for its workings against humanity.

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