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Linda Teese's avatar

Radicalised Zionist Fanatics weaponising antisemitism, drunk on Zionist Koolaid propaganda and bleating they're the victims is reprehensible. The genocidal atrocities against Palestinians by these Radicalised Zionist Fanatics are cruel, evil and break international laws. They are ethnically cleansing Gaza, the occupied West Bank and are also bombing Lebanon, Syria, Yemen. The world can see what's happening. As a Jewish Anti Zionist I'm appalled at all of this. Australia should not be supporting genocide.

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George Hazim's avatar

I agree.

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roger hawcroft's avatar

Segal will not consider resignation nor donating her outrageously high salary to a deserving organisation. She will not do so because she is not a disinterested 'special envoy', (whatever that is supposed to mean), and as you so rightly say, the. position is both unnecessary and its creation a prejudiced and ill considered move in appeasement of Netanyahu - a war criminal.

Unfortunately, the majority of Australians almost certainly have little real knowledge or understanding of the machinations that have taken place in the Middle East, the foreign interference, the bias against Arabs and the reality that the Palestinians had their land stolen from them, largely by Britain, (though with the connivance of other European powers and, at the time, a reluctant USA).

The very creation of the Israeli state was itself an example of appeasement to a Zionist lobby and the partitioning of Palestinian land to create the state involved *no* Palestinians, followed deceit by Britain and breaking of a promise to the Arabs for their role in assisting Britain against the Ottomans, and falsities such as the notion that there were not many Arabs living in Palestine - only a few % it was claimed, when in fact it was more in the vein of 95%.

As you also stated, there is *no* justification for special attention to be given to supposed antisemitism which is fraudulently used to describe what almost certainly are either attacks by those angered at Australia's support for a brutal and genocidal Zionist nation and/or an opportunistic indulgence by hard right wing individuals or groups who wish to cause as much social upheaval as possible. It is also notable that the daubing of slogans on Israeli synagogue, businesses and such and the deliberate damage and arson feed the desire of right wing 'law and order' zealots who ignore or fail to comprehend why crime exists to the extent that it does and who argue that greater policing and penalties are needed to stop it when, in fact, they have never done so and are more likely to increase both initial criminal behaviour and recidivism.

Netanyahu's criminal behaviour and that of his colleagues and the military they command, as well as that of the illegal West Bank Settlers, are almost certainly also a symptom of the ever increasing right-wing movement across the World and play to the simplistic understanding of those who are in pain from being at the bottom end of an increasingly inequitable society or societies. These people want change and are ripe for conditioning by hard line right wingers who care not a jot for their lot but will use their pain to induct them into a misguided and deluded populist movement, as has happened in the USA with Trump and his cohort of self aggrandising, corrupt and self-serving right wing delinquents.

'The Australian' ought to change its name, just as should the Liberal Party for they are both misnomers. There is nothing of positive moral character or action about either organisation and Peter Dutton is as much a threat to justice, freedom, women and democracy as is Trump in the USA.

I am heartily disappointed in Albanese's leadership and the failure of the ALP to condemn Israel's ethnic cleansing, cruelty, criminality and breach of international conventions and UN resolutions. I saw, as did many, the 'writing on the wall' when the ALP chose to retain the tax cuts decided by the LNP but never thought I would witness such kow-towing to the USA as has been the case.

The Greens and independents are now the only Australian politicians who exhibit any honesty, clarity of vision and understanding of reality. They are also the only ones who recognise that they are there to serve and improve the well-being of all and that such means reducing inequity, improving moral standards - starting with their own - and acting responsibly in relation to major issues such as climate change and the increased militarisation across the World. Buying multi-billon dollar nuclear powered submarines that will be obsolescent before they ever set sail, subsidising fossil fuel companies and granting more fossil fuel mining leases is not what Australia should be doing and that the ALP is in government and acting this way is reprehensible and a betrayal of all it has stood for and the statesmen and women that it has produced.

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Roslyn Ross's avatar

Agree with most of it. Greens are a disaster on environmental issues but otherwise you are spot on.

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roger hawcroft's avatar

Thank you. However, the Greens are not at all "a disaster on environmental issues" but rather the major political movement for action to protect and save our environment and, indeed the planet and all species upon it. If one can't see that, then there is a fault in one's attention, comprehension or intellect or perhaps just conditioning too embedded for one to escape it. Such a statement certainly has no veracity.

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Roslyn Ross's avatar

Having read across the spectrum it is very clear there is no evidence for anthropocentric climate change.

And, having done the research it is also clear that both wind and solar are not clean and have dangerous toxic impacts on the environment while failing to provide base load energy.

Solar and wind farms destroy the natural world and farmland which we need, harm wildlife and birds and fail to provide base load power while creating huge and toxic waste problems.

Human caused climate change has no veracity and clean power is a lie.

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roger hawcroft's avatar

Wrong.

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Roslyn Ross's avatar

I have no issue with what is called Green energy, I just think none exists at this point given the toxic waste levels produced by solar and wind and it takes a particular kind of idiot to destroy reliable base load power resources before we have something better. Which we do not. I also think it takes a particular kind of stupid to think that humans cause the climate to change. Perhaps we can discuss it somewhere else.There is plenty of evidence but the issue is off-topic.

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Judy Bancroft's avatar

Excellent comment Roger. Re misnomers - as a migrant here, I was surprised and somewhat mystified that the Liberal Party is so named - why isn’t it called the Conservative Party? I’ve already commented on the Israelian/Australian newspaper.

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Mitch Ritter's avatar

The optics in our "Liberated by BIG TECH advanced states" comports with 20th C..'s winners of Corporate Capture New Wage Slavery of BIG GLOBAL CAPITAL sweepstakes. The mirror will control optics favorable to BIG GLOBAL CAPITAL managerial class beholden to the vacant wealth concentrating and hoarding ELITE. If we have the time and mind to read and consider these words, we are being groomed to become the next THEM THAT RULE US FROM BID-NET BOARDROOMS and EXEC SUITES at the Bid-Net Centers of hollowed out URBAN EXEC ELITE DESIGN. Anti-Socially Talented mass movers replacing the old talking heads who were perceived to possess BIG RIZ (RIZ=corporate charisma). Like here in optically working class and unionized, EnviroLeisure-based PoTown, Ore

https://www.wweek.com/news/city/2025/01/14/mayor-wilson-requires-managers-and-supervisors-at-city-to-return-to-office-full-time-beginning-in-april/

On location at InterContinentals and the INSURERS OF PACIFIC PALISADES ASHEN ESTATES are the world over for the Leisure class and kept breeding units of privilege. Don't flatter yerselves with inserting our current class Elite Hierarchy or UNIONIZED LABOR SLIVER WE'VE TOLERATED with ELITE EXEC\MANAGERIAL montages of the few concerned with even maintaining the optics of anything other than Southern Gothic BDSM Neo-Reactionary NRX BDSM suburban plantation life of fantasy PRIVILEGE.

Skin colors are less and less any game changer. Except the chemical BRONZING AGENTS MAINTAINED for Ordo Templar BDSM cosplay optics of those serving BIG GLOBAL INVESTOR CAPITAL.

How much capital is under control by any means Trumpian and Imagistically SuperImposed? That is back to transparently ruling by imposing Levers of Executive CONTROL....The jobs for what is left of downsized shrunken admin class advertise and TRUMPet jobs of sitting in Wage Slave cubicles verifying the SECURED FUNDS on DEPOSIT and for show circulating in INVESTMENT MARKETS.

Otherwise, like Uncle Mel and Bill Szatmary and their a'musing writers room mused, CHAOS dba Empty Suit in Yacht Cap SIEGFRIED rules. Who needs the Yacht when Shock Doctrine cap is enough kit to US there in our Globalized smooth-sailing spheres of repose: Corporate-structured Dems\GOP are our masters\mistresses. If you can't afford to buy in, too late now sucka!! We can all laugh to the only secured Masters\Mistresses. Those insured whose wealth has been secured by military under arms and BIG TECH SURVEILLANCE CAPITALISM (See its best scholar and structural teacher: PROF SHOSHANA ZUBOFF among the rare Elite kept in place on merit and productivity in keeping NEW RULES and TERMS\CONDITIONS DISCLOSURES being mailed out to shareholders from shrunken TENURED WELL-GROOMED CORPORATE GRANTED CAMPUSES:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ_jvdAP-7U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s4Y-uZG5zk&t=2114s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obpEz_U6flE&t=22s

#449) PUTNEY SWOPE - GUILTY PLEASURE AND FORGOTTEN TREASURE

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"To some it's a Dirty Pleasure, but I think it's a Forgotten Treasure. Directed and Written by Robert Downey Senior." (A Prince....)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1HU2e4YcsM

Robert Downey Sr. (A Prince) and Paul Thomas Anderson (A Professor) on Putney Swope contracted MAD Avenue Elite Exec Master\Mistress class benevolent overLORDS and a'musers pleat RULE US...........

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In the fourth and final part of our web-excuslive conversation between Robert Downey Sr. and Paul Thomas Anderson, the pair discuss the cult classic PUTNEY SWOPE.

Tio Mitchito

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roger hawcroft's avatar

I dislike capitalism and I also dislike shouting in online comment. The use of capitals in this context is redolent of the use of capital by those who control society.

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Mitch Ritter's avatar

Aesthete!!!!!!

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Ren Lebarbe's avatar

Mitch, what on earth are you going on about?

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Mitch Ritter's avatar

That reply would be even longer.....

I don't apologize for digressions into da Underground. It is where I came from.

Tio Mitchito

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Roslyn Ross's avatar

Surely if such a role were needed it would be one individual to target all religious racism and not one just for Jews.

And, if there was a State, which was an occupier and coloniser on someone else's land and country which was Muslim, and declared it acted for all Muslims and represented Islam and it was doing what Israel is doing and claims to do in the name of Judaism and Jews, and there were expressions of rage toward that Muslim State, no-one would blink.

As long as Jews allow Israel to claim it is their State, acts in the name of them and their religion, then the atrocities Israel commits and the rage it engenders will be borne and worn by Jews.

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roger hawcroft's avatar

I agree with your general sentiment. However, this is nothing to do with race or religion, just as rape is nothing to do with sex - both are about power and control.

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Roslyn Ross's avatar

I never said it had anything to do with race. Racism as a word applies to all discrimination not just racial discrimination.

I disagree that rape has nothing to do with sex and is purely about power and control. Sex is the biological urge to create life, even if unconsciously so. Humans are designed for sex for this reason. Making it pleasant assists the process of human survival.

Rape is common in war because, facing death, unconsciously there is a biological urge to strive for survival. Power and control are involved, but it is more complex than that. Anyway, off topic.

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roger hawcroft's avatar

Wrong.

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David Elliott's avatar

Yet another ‘apologist for genocide’. And apartheid and state-sanctioned terror, rape humiliation, ethnic cleansing and general oppression/humiliation. Sound familiar? It should do to many Australians as this was how it was taught to treat its indigenous populations by the British. And it did, extensively and for over 100 years just like the US. This kind of mentality takes root in a people - especially at the level of the ‘Establishment’. It comes as no surprise to me then that this evil woman with her overblown and imagined claims of ‘Jewish victimhood’ should gain such power in Australia.

This is an opportunity for Australia to fully recognize the wrongs done to its own aboriginal population at the hands of its own settler/colonialists by siding, this time, with the true victims of oppression - the Palestinians - and not their bullying, hateful, deceitful oppressors, Israel.

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David Elliott's avatar

I don’t know. If it does we don’t hear from him.

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gypsy33's avatar

Hi David

I was just wondering:

Does Australia have an envoy to speak for the Indigenous people of Australia?

My guess is NOT.

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roger hawcroft's avatar

In the main, I agree with you. However, the British did not teach Australians to treat indigenous populations in a particular way. There were no Australians until 1901 and by then, the new nation was predominantly composed of British immigrants, either voluntary or forced.

Australians of today are a diverse group with all manner of conditioning and beliefs and the ethnic divisions among them are rife, not solely confined to the original inhabitants of this colonised continent.

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George Hazim's avatar

Well said David.

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George Hazim's avatar

No it doesn’t.

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Ohio Barbarian's avatar

Could someone please explain to me why it is in Australia's objective national interests to unconditionally support Israel? I can see the old Cold War argument for the US Empire doing it, though I never believed it for a second, but AUSTRALIA?

Just looking at a globe and trying to figure that out is befuddling.

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gypsy33's avatar

Could they still be under the thumb of the Bastard British Regime?

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Nuance&context's avatar

This is because the Australian is not beholden to the socialist and leftist positions that advance antisemitism - those repugnant virtue signaling wasp's nests decrying that there be any kind of investigation into the very antisemitism they embrace.

Like you lot here who can't understand why anti Jewish hatred being the highest percentage of all hate crimes in Australia, should be investigated without lumping in every other group in the country.

Undermining and attacking the character of those at the helmet of such an investigation reflects very poorly on you lot as well. Imagine e being such jew haters that you can't even stand for it to be looking into.

Visibly Jewish people cannot even venture into major Australian cities now without the threat of violence. But no matter. Why should that concern you? As if you do t know that there are already plenty of organizations that protect Aboriginal rights against hate. Your desperation to prevent the acknowledgement that jews are being targeted, synagogues firebombed, Jewish areas vandalized, and Jewish school children harrassed and worse, is a stain on thos country that will be hard to wash out. Shame on the lot of you.

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Ohio Barbarian's avatar

There have been few, if any, spray-paintings of synagogues, much less firebombings, in the US since 10/7/23, and not a single Jewish person has been lynched.

A good many have been arrested, however, for protesting AGAINST the actions of the genocidal maniacs of Israel.

I imagine it’s the same in Australia. I imagine that you are full of shit.

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Nuance&context's avatar

You imagine wrong. I was referring to the Australian situation. Now go educate yourself, nazi. Israel should have fi idled Hamas and i hope one day they will. Your support for terrorists over a free democracy those terrorists attacked is telling enough.

Every synagogue in the ISA needs armed guards and has for at least the last 40 to 50 years. No mosques need armed guards. Turns out Jews arent involved in terror activities in Israel or outside of it. It's just easier for the press to spin lies about Israel than it's diaspora communities. But the truth is that Israel has never initiated a war and the Gazans have labeled it a 'genocide' every time Israel defends itself against Palestinian attempts to mass murder Jewish civilians.

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Diane Engelhardt's avatar

If the government were serious about combatting antisemitism (assuming it is a problem that justifies the creation of a special envoy), they wouldn't appoint a Jewish woman whose mission, most likely, is to perpetuate Jewish victimhood; to defame, destroy and defund all critics of Israel; and to extort financial, military and moral support for Israel's right to violate all international humanitarian laws and to commit genocide.

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Ren Lebarbe's avatar

How shameful that Australia has done this. Who did the zionists pay off in the Australian government?

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F....'s avatar

Silencing truth and squashing criticism and dissent - truth is the enemy of state.

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roger hawcroft's avatar

I'd suggest that, more exactly, the state is the enemy of truth.

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Ben_H's avatar

"Antisemitism" has been one big LIE for many decades. The body called "state of Isra-ill" has been hard at work on this but why? there are 3 possible reasons:

1) Some idiots (Jewish) found that wallowing in "Antisemitism" is some kind of a newly found replacement for a Jewish content which they felt was missing in their lives.

2) This sick “hobby” can yield a very nice salary.

3) This initiative is not so much Israeli but part of the way the imperial order is running its control on their string of businesses and global interests.

I'd say the 3rd one is the main cause for the other 2.

Some may operate under all 3 reasons so they are not mutually exclusive.

In my view, "Isra-ill" in itself (with or without relentlessly pushing "Antisemitism") can be explained only by the 3rd cause.

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Gina Klein's avatar

100% agree. Segal is being paid to publicise her own Zionist beliefs and prejudices. It’s a ludicrous and racist appointment.

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Bob - Enough's avatar

Go back to the start and look at the picture -THE EYES ...

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roger hawcroft's avatar

There is no "Lord Yahweh" by that or any other of the names this mythical deity has been given. Neither have any of those commenting here, so far, been antisemitic. It appears that you are yet another who doesn't even know the meaning of the term.

I suggest that instead of spurious one line comments and abusive allegations that don't even make sense, you educate yourself, at the very least on this issue or you refrain from making an ass of yourself by spouting nonsense in public.

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gypsy33's avatar

Well said Roger!!!!

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