Michael Gawenda, one-time editor of Australia’s top newspaper The Age, has taken to lending his journalistic craft to writing for The Australian.George’s Newsletter is a reader-supported publication.
The short answer George, is NO; IsraHell has forfeited its right to exist. And should never have existed in the first place.
How can Palestinians exist peacefully with the likes of violent squatters and people like those Brooklyn Jews who say they don’t care about how many Gazan children have died?
Could you forgive them? I couldn’t.
Any non-Zionist Jew who can live in peace would be welcome to remain. To the rest, I say go back to Poland, Russia, Noo Yawk, or whatever hole you crawled out of.
Gawenda is Jewish and that is why he is playing the propaganda game for anyone and everyone.
The irony is that anyone who defends Israel in the name of Judaism and claims the Zionist State represents Jews and their religion, is saying that Judaism and Jews support, promote and commit occupation, colonisation, genocide, ethnic cleansing, rape, torture, murder, theft and atrocities at a level greater than most others.
Israel never had a right to exist. No State does and one thing is certain, no State has a right to commit the atrocities Israel has done in its foundation and 76 years of function and get away with it.
Regardless of whether or not Gawenda believes the insanity that Jews and their religion have a right to Palestine, even if true, which it is not, none of it would give them the right to occupy, colonise, commit genocide and ethnic cleansing, dispossess, rape, torture, murder, steal and inflict levels of sadistic cruelty and bestial savagery on the native people of the land they have stolen which ranks as some of the worst in human history.
Gawenda has put the Oz article up on his substack. I did comment and expect to be banned.
Update: he deleted my comments. Here they are:
You said: An end to the war is a long way off and a long-term peace agreement of any kind between Israel and the Palestinians remains a hope and a dream,
Since Israel is the massively armed military colonial occupier of all of Palestine then it only remains a hope and a dream because Israel refuses to end the occupation.
If Israel did not occupy all of Palestine and deny the native people of the land it colonises justice, freedom and human and civil rights then there would be no Palestinian Resistance, no Hamas, no October 7, no hostages, no war. To continue to deny that reality is ridiculous.
Australia, Canada, United States, New Zealand, all founded through colonisation although in centuries long before Israel was set up in Palestine, did not expect the native people to play equal partners in the colonial game. They had the power and they used it to give full and equal rights to the native people of the land, embracing them as citizens. Israel refuses to do that in the name of religious bigotry and ethnosupremacism.
Since Australia as a US lackey, sorry, ally, helps maintain Israel's occupation of Palestine then yes, we should discuss the apartheid Zionist State. And, if in a one state solution, the only solution since Israel made and makes two states impossible, the world loses a Jewish state called Israel, what does it matter? Most Jews, including yourself do not live in Israel, never did and never will.
And surely in a modern age when we encourage democracy, a religious ethnostate, for any reason, has no place? Why should Jews have a State when no other religion claims such a right? Why would Jews even need Israel when it is the most dangerous place they can live and it defames them and their religion?
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You said: There is a world in which such a discussion of “one state” could happen, but it is not the world in which we are living, the world we have been living in since October 7, 2023.
October 7 started nothing. It all began in the 1920's with the rampaging of Jewish terrorist gangs in Palestine who paved the way for the genocidal invasion by Zionists and Jews in 1947/48.
The world in which we live says occupation, colonisation, ethnic cleansing, genocide are wrong, crimes against humanity. That has been and remains the story of Israel, unfortunately for everyone.
The occupation must end and with it Israel's sadistic cruelty and bestial savagery toward the Palestinians. We need a Nuremberg for Palestine and reparation and compensation for the Palestinian people for 76 years of holocaust.
Since Israel cannot exterminate or expel 6 million in Occupied Palestine and 2 million who remain without nationality and true citizenship in what is called Israel, or the 8 million in the Diaspora, the reality is Palestinians cannot be defeated.
That means only the one-state solution is an option where Jews who wish to remain as Palestinians can do so and those who do not go back to where they, their parents or grandparents came from. Many have done so already, particularly young Israelis with the biggest community in Berlin, a testament to healing and the fact they feel safer in Germany.
The only thing which dies is a backward religious fantasy of Judaism and a racist fantasy of fascist political Zionism. Anyone of conscience, including Jews, wants that gone which is why a third of young American Jews want Israel dismantled. Time for older generations like you to put your fantasies aside and work for justice, rule of law, democracy, human rights and common human decency.
It is painful work but it honours Judaism and your soul.
I had first asked him to prove that one thing I had said was wrong and he told me to go away. The problem with these people is that they live and function in echo chambers and the media is one of the biggest echo chambers of all, full of gassy farts emanating from a load of shit, and any challenge to their narrative literally traumatises them. They cannot even begin to comprehend that most people on planet earth condemn occupation, colonisation, genocide and ethnic cleansing. And yes, to that degree they are brainwashed morons.
Hear, hear. Says it all - or at least all that needs to be said - in a rational, reasonable and accessible way that even those who comprehend relatively little ought to be able to understand.
the glaring blatancy of your declarative, " Civility is a luxury that those who are oppressed can’t afford." is a pearl of ironic sagacity and urgency that bespeaks your humanity in the face of your own oppression in the face of disdainful treatment by the western MSM. onward in solidarity, george hazim!
Israel is the most dangerous country in the world and the USA has created something that controls America ,it’s called nuclear destruction no one can control them now !!
Arguably many Australians as well as Americans speak their disingenuous bullshit because they are conscious one way or another of their country's settler-colonial past. What's scary is their apparent inability to see the barbarity of the Zionists and the suffering of the Palestinians, nor that anti-Zionists are worth listening to if they really want Israel to continue to exist.
As someone who has studied American history and Australian history, the latter in great depth, I can assure you, neither was founded in the religious bigotry and genocidal hatred of the native people that Israel was and is.
All colonisations are not and were not equal and to conflate the evil that is Israel in the 20th and 21st centuries with colonisations by anglo-europeans from the 16th to the 19th centuries is just wrong.
As requested here is the link to Gawenda’s article: Suggesting Israel has forfeited its right to exist is obscene https://www.theaustralian.com.au/inquirer/unkosher-suggesting-israel-has-forfeited-its-right-to-exist-is-obscene/news-story/cd22c2a1a568a2f9c97c3b75c6895c77
The short answer George, is NO; IsraHell has forfeited its right to exist. And should never have existed in the first place.
How can Palestinians exist peacefully with the likes of violent squatters and people like those Brooklyn Jews who say they don’t care about how many Gazan children have died?
Could you forgive them? I couldn’t.
Any non-Zionist Jew who can live in peace would be welcome to remain. To the rest, I say go back to Poland, Russia, Noo Yawk, or whatever hole you crawled out of.
Great article. Solid points.
Gawenda is Jewish and that is why he is playing the propaganda game for anyone and everyone.
The irony is that anyone who defends Israel in the name of Judaism and claims the Zionist State represents Jews and their religion, is saying that Judaism and Jews support, promote and commit occupation, colonisation, genocide, ethnic cleansing, rape, torture, murder, theft and atrocities at a level greater than most others.
Israel never had a right to exist. No State does and one thing is certain, no State has a right to commit the atrocities Israel has done in its foundation and 76 years of function and get away with it.
Regardless of whether or not Gawenda believes the insanity that Jews and their religion have a right to Palestine, even if true, which it is not, none of it would give them the right to occupy, colonise, commit genocide and ethnic cleansing, dispossess, rape, torture, murder, steal and inflict levels of sadistic cruelty and bestial savagery on the native people of the land they have stolen which ranks as some of the worst in human history.
I did put a comment on Gawenda's substack and he told me to go away and stop ranting. I said facts are not rants and facts are painful.
Well done and well said. Obviously he finds it incomprehensibly hard to deal with the truth and being told he’s a brainwashed moron.
Gawenda has put the Oz article up on his substack. I did comment and expect to be banned.
Update: he deleted my comments. Here they are:
You said: An end to the war is a long way off and a long-term peace agreement of any kind between Israel and the Palestinians remains a hope and a dream,
Since Israel is the massively armed military colonial occupier of all of Palestine then it only remains a hope and a dream because Israel refuses to end the occupation.
If Israel did not occupy all of Palestine and deny the native people of the land it colonises justice, freedom and human and civil rights then there would be no Palestinian Resistance, no Hamas, no October 7, no hostages, no war. To continue to deny that reality is ridiculous.
Australia, Canada, United States, New Zealand, all founded through colonisation although in centuries long before Israel was set up in Palestine, did not expect the native people to play equal partners in the colonial game. They had the power and they used it to give full and equal rights to the native people of the land, embracing them as citizens. Israel refuses to do that in the name of religious bigotry and ethnosupremacism.
Since Australia as a US lackey, sorry, ally, helps maintain Israel's occupation of Palestine then yes, we should discuss the apartheid Zionist State. And, if in a one state solution, the only solution since Israel made and makes two states impossible, the world loses a Jewish state called Israel, what does it matter? Most Jews, including yourself do not live in Israel, never did and never will.
And surely in a modern age when we encourage democracy, a religious ethnostate, for any reason, has no place? Why should Jews have a State when no other religion claims such a right? Why would Jews even need Israel when it is the most dangerous place they can live and it defames them and their religion?
…
You said: There is a world in which such a discussion of “one state” could happen, but it is not the world in which we are living, the world we have been living in since October 7, 2023.
October 7 started nothing. It all began in the 1920's with the rampaging of Jewish terrorist gangs in Palestine who paved the way for the genocidal invasion by Zionists and Jews in 1947/48.
The world in which we live says occupation, colonisation, ethnic cleansing, genocide are wrong, crimes against humanity. That has been and remains the story of Israel, unfortunately for everyone.
The occupation must end and with it Israel's sadistic cruelty and bestial savagery toward the Palestinians. We need a Nuremberg for Palestine and reparation and compensation for the Palestinian people for 76 years of holocaust.
Since Israel cannot exterminate or expel 6 million in Occupied Palestine and 2 million who remain without nationality and true citizenship in what is called Israel, or the 8 million in the Diaspora, the reality is Palestinians cannot be defeated.
That means only the one-state solution is an option where Jews who wish to remain as Palestinians can do so and those who do not go back to where they, their parents or grandparents came from. Many have done so already, particularly young Israelis with the biggest community in Berlin, a testament to healing and the fact they feel safer in Germany.
The only thing which dies is a backward religious fantasy of Judaism and a racist fantasy of fascist political Zionism. Anyone of conscience, including Jews, wants that gone which is why a third of young American Jews want Israel dismantled. Time for older generations like you to put your fantasies aside and work for justice, rule of law, democracy, human rights and common human decency.
It is painful work but it honours Judaism and your soul.
I had first asked him to prove that one thing I had said was wrong and he told me to go away. The problem with these people is that they live and function in echo chambers and the media is one of the biggest echo chambers of all, full of gassy farts emanating from a load of shit, and any challenge to their narrative literally traumatises them. They cannot even begin to comprehend that most people on planet earth condemn occupation, colonisation, genocide and ethnic cleansing. And yes, to that degree they are brainwashed morons.
Hear, hear. Says it all - or at least all that needs to be said - in a rational, reasonable and accessible way that even those who comprehend relatively little ought to be able to understand.
the glaring blatancy of your declarative, " Civility is a luxury that those who are oppressed can’t afford." is a pearl of ironic sagacity and urgency that bespeaks your humanity in the face of your own oppression in the face of disdainful treatment by the western MSM. onward in solidarity, george hazim!
Israel is the most dangerous country in the world and the USA has created something that controls America ,it’s called nuclear destruction no one can control them now !!
Arguably many Australians as well as Americans speak their disingenuous bullshit because they are conscious one way or another of their country's settler-colonial past. What's scary is their apparent inability to see the barbarity of the Zionists and the suffering of the Palestinians, nor that anti-Zionists are worth listening to if they really want Israel to continue to exist.
As someone who has studied American history and Australian history, the latter in great depth, I can assure you, neither was founded in the religious bigotry and genocidal hatred of the native people that Israel was and is.
All colonisations are not and were not equal and to conflate the evil that is Israel in the 20th and 21st centuries with colonisations by anglo-europeans from the 16th to the 19th centuries is just wrong.
Israeli settlers can go the fuck back from where they came.
Perhaps others might like to post on Mr Gawenda's substack and remind him of why promoting colonial genocide is wrong.
https://michaelgawenda.substack.com/p/time-to-talk-about-a-one-state-solution
Do we have a link to the original article which is being critiqued here, please?